The Lovesick Barmaid (bandita) wrote in historical_love,
The Lovesick Barmaid

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I love my ancient men, what can I say?

I've been meaning to do this for awhile. It's such a great idea, I love it! But uh, yeah. Here are my crushes, and lots of pictures. The first crush is my greatest one. I'll give you a hint...

My icon very likely gave it away at the outset, but yes, it is in fact the Roman emperor Nero! A weird choice, you may say. But no! Not when you really think about it. See, I'm a Classicist and as I've had to study the emperors somewhat in depth, after reading Suetonius and Tacitus as well as various modern biographies about him, I just fell in love with Nero. Yeah, he was a bit eccentric, a bit vain, a bit paranoid by the end of his rule. But I believe he gets a really bad rap in the histories largely because of the writers' biases against the way he preferred to live his life, ie. as an artist, musician, actor, etc. Not to say that he did no wrong, as the Great Fire fallout demonstrates. But he did do some good things that get glossed over or canceled out by the historians. Ultimately, it was that reliance on popularity with the people, that charisma that ended up destroying him. It was lost on the Senate and the army.

I love the creative, carefree, sensual and charming man that he was - not to mention I've always found him rather handsome, even into the later years of his reign - and I'd do almost anything to be able to go back in time and get to know him. He would have been fun. I know it. ♥

Look at that face! And that hint of smirk. Adorable!

Nero and his infamous mother Agrippina

I love this statue. I wish I could find a reproduction of it for sale!

Aaaand, because I like pictures and I like to abuse the lj-cut, I have included my secondary crush here.

I hate to admit, but I also have a small crush on Augustus. I mean, come on, look at those busts and tell me he doesn't look good? And also, you gotta give the man credit for transforming Rome from a limping republic to a strident empire - and with such finesse. As much as he kind of gets on my nerves when I'm translating his Res Gestae into English, he still holds a place in my heart. Just...not as big a place as Nero. Don't think he'd be able to wrap his mind around that, but, it is what it is.


He can Pontifex my Maximus any day. ...Yeah, I went there.


Also, I thought I might mention that I have just opened two stamping communities: imperator_stamp (Roman Emperors) and iclaudius_stamp (I, Claudius). Please feel free to join if you're at all interested! /plugging
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Classicists, unite! *high-fives* There just aren't enough of us around, you know? I'm always glad to find another one! And omg Latin, how I love it so. ♥


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I agree! And sure! :) *adds*
Oh gods, Augustus, my first and forever historical crush...Even "I, Claudius" couldn't dampen it.

While I find your crush on Nero a bit inexplicable, the statue with Aggripina is very interesting indeed. It looks like she's arranging his hair.

He can Pontifex my Maximus any day. ...Yeah, I went there.
Yeah, I was really surprised by the way he's portrayed in I, Claudius. I love the series to death, as well as Brian Blessed. But I thought it was an odd direction to take with his character.

Ahahaha, yeah, I know. I do confound people with my love for him. I have a thing for rebellious artist types anyway, and as a rule I typically find the bad boy emperors more interesting. Must be why the Julio-Claudians are by far my favorite imperial dynasty.

I just think Nero would've been lots of fun. I'd kill to hear him sing or watch him perform onstage.
My Latin prof. keeps recommending TV!"I, Claudius" but I find I just could not get through the series. I prefer Rome, even if that also featured a rather bizarre Octavian.

I don't think you would have a choice if he's there XD
Aww. Well, if you should ever have the time or patience to try again, I would say it's totally worth the effort. One of my fave episodes is the last one, with Agrippina and Nero. It's...campy. But awesome. Nero cracks me up every time, even though a little piece of me dies inside whenever I see him. But Agrippina is something else, OMG.

This is probably true. XD

Also: ICON LOVE. Antony is loveandsex. Damn. And yeah, speaking of bizarre Octavian in Rome? WTF? Personally, I think the older!Octavian is a lizard. Or something else not quite human. He kinda creeps me out. Young!Octavian is great, in my opinion.

But seriously, I love that quote. It cracks me up every time I break out the icon. This one, on my current icon, is one that I use in daily conversation, not gonna lie.
I keep trying... I skipped around once and accidentally saw Caligula dancing. It was a very 0_o moment. Next time I try, I shall just skip to the Agrippina bits then.

BOTH Octavians were creepy, but the older one especially...yes.

Antony is great though (in the show and in history -- though I still wish Fulvia's life is dramatized, too). I really hope that they actually did find his tomb.

I've friended you for your opinions on Romans XD
Ahahaha, what a place to stumble onto. XD I love the "Dance of Dawn". It's...pretty amazing.

If I have a single criticism for both Octavians, it's that they made them a little too evil, both young and old. The younger one is at least more convincing and palatable than the older version, to me. I know he was cunning and always poised to strike, but he was also apparently quite personable, something that Julius also was known for, perhaps more so. Both Octavians just seemed a bit too cold. But, meh. I love that show so much.

I'm convinced that James Purefoy is channeling Antony. Like, for serious. In my mind, he just IS Antony. He's perfect. ♥

Haha, great! I've friended you back! I love having more Roman pals. :D
Heh! I think he also looks a wee bit like Lord Byron.
He really does! I'd heard him compared to Lord Byron before, but now I can see an additional point of comparison. Very interesting!
Awesome, awesome post!! I'll forever be in love with Monteverdi's "The Coronation of Poppea", so I totally identify with the Nero love. Great pictures! Your use of Latin was awesome. XD
Thanks! I will admit, I wasn't sure how it was gonna go down, considering Nero is, well, one of those people in history. I just can't help but love him. I've spent, like, three years studying him (on top of everything else required by my Classics course load, yikes) and have really just fallen in crazy love with him. It's bad...I have two busts of him that I got in Rome. I'm always looking for more. One can never have enough, yanno?

I've never seen/heard "The Coronation of Poppaea", so I shall have to check it out. What's it like?
Oh, your obsession with Nero is completely like my obsession with Beethoven: I have three posters in my room of Beethoven-related things, a bust, and a statuette of him on my piano. XD You can DEFINITELY NOT have too much! XD

It's an early opera, from the late Renaissance/early Baroque - here's one of my favorite moments: Signori, Deh, Non Partire. To understand the action, scroll down to Scene 3 so you can follow along in English if you like. :) Both parts are written for high voices, as Nero's part would have been played by a castrato back in the day. (My favorite part of the track is between 3:39-5:35). Please let me know what you think! :D
Oh man, I feel so much better since joining this community! Like, you don't even know. It's like a lovely little support group. ♥

But yeah, I have my two busts, three Nero coins, one of which is actually on my key chain that goes with me everywhere, aaaaand I'm gonna order some lovely posters when I have more cash. It's gonna be awesome. Obsessive, y/y? The thing is, if Nero could see this kind of fangirlish worship of him, he'd LOVE it. He'd eat it up. XD

Hmm, sounds interesting! I'd heard of it, but never really knew what it was about aside from Nero and Poppaea, heh. I'm downloading it now, thanks! I just read somewhere that it gives Poppaea a more sympathetic portrayal, which is also interesting. I wouldn't have expected that from the Renaissance era, given how she's depicted in the histories.

But yay, it's done downloading. I'm gonna listen now! :D
So I listened to it - it's very pretty music! I was happy that I could actually understand some of it, even with the minuscule Italian that I know. I swear I'm gonna finish teaching myself the language this summer. I've got to!

I will admit that the plot line hurts me inside a little bit. Okay, more than a little bit, haha. But that's okay, because it's lovely music! Thanks so much for sharing it! :)
augustus is the reason i passed ancient history in school. THANK YOU for the photos!
You are very welcome! I quite enjoy spreading the love. ;)